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	Comments on: The Temple, Cally House, Gatehouse of Fleet, Dumfries &#038; Galloway	</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 17:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thefollyflaneuse.com/the-temple-cally-house-gatehouse-of-fleet-dumfries-galloway/#comment-2854&quot;&gt;Julia Abel Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for summarising the relationship. I will try to investigate further once life returns to something like normal and I can get into archives.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thefollyflaneuse.com/the-temple-cally-house-gatehouse-of-fleet-dumfries-galloway/#comment-2854">Julia Abel Smith</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for summarising the relationship. I will try to investigate further once life returns to something like normal and I can get into archives.</p>
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		By: Julia Abel Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 17:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thefollyflaneuse.com/the-temple-cally-house-gatehouse-of-fleet-dumfries-galloway/#comment-2852&quot;&gt;Editor&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, indeed - I hope the following explanation might will be clear!  

Lady Augusta Murray&#039;s mother, Charlotte Stewart, was a younger sister of Catherine (Katie), who married James Murray of Broughton and lived at Cally.

Catherine and Charlotte&#039;s father, 6th Earl of Galloway, was the brother of Lady Euphemia, who was the mother of James Murray.

Lady Katie therefore married her first cousin, a frequent occurrence at that time.

Lady Augusta Murray, the subject of my book &#039;Forbidden Wife&#039;, was therefore the niece of Lady Katie and cousin, once removed, of James Murray of Broughton.   The Stewart family tree at the beginning of the book may be helpful?

I wonder whether the Temple at Cally was built at the instigation of Lady Catherine or James Murray and Grace Johnston?]]></description>
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<p>Yes, indeed &#8211; I hope the following explanation might will be clear!  </p>
<p>Lady Augusta Murray&#8217;s mother, Charlotte Stewart, was a younger sister of Catherine (Katie), who married James Murray of Broughton and lived at Cally.</p>
<p>Catherine and Charlotte&#8217;s father, 6th Earl of Galloway, was the brother of Lady Euphemia, who was the mother of James Murray.</p>
<p>Lady Katie therefore married her first cousin, a frequent occurrence at that time.</p>
<p>Lady Augusta Murray, the subject of my book &#8216;Forbidden Wife&#8217;, was therefore the niece of Lady Katie and cousin, once removed, of James Murray of Broughton.   The Stewart family tree at the beginning of the book may be helpful?</p>
<p>I wonder whether the Temple at Cally was built at the instigation of Lady Catherine or James Murray and Grace Johnston?</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thefollyflaneuse.com/the-temple-cally-house-gatehouse-of-fleet-dumfries-galloway/#comment-2851&quot;&gt;Julia Abel Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Julia and thanks for this fascinating extra information. Is James Murray any relation of Augusta Murray, of Dunmore Pineapple fame, whom you wrote about so movingly recently?]]></description>
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<p>Hello Julia and thanks for this fascinating extra information. Is James Murray any relation of Augusta Murray, of Dunmore Pineapple fame, whom you wrote about so movingly recently?</p>
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		By: Julia Abel Smith		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 13:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The long-suffering heroine of Cally at this period is James Murray&#039;s wife, Lady Catherine Stewart. They married in 1752 when James already had an illegitimate daughter, whom she brought up with affection.  However, in 1760s Murray eloped with Grace Johnston, the governess, but Lady Catherine, known to her family as Katie, continued living at Cally.  In 1787 Katie wrote to Ann Stewart, née Murray, of Shambellie (I am unsure whether she was the illegitimate daughter) wife of William Stewart, asking her not to mention her husband while &#039;his frenzy remains&#039;.  Grace and James eventually returned to Cally, which they enlarged to accommodate their four children, and Lady Katie died in 1799.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The long-suffering heroine of Cally at this period is James Murray&#8217;s wife, Lady Catherine Stewart. They married in 1752 when James already had an illegitimate daughter, whom she brought up with affection.  However, in 1760s Murray eloped with Grace Johnston, the governess, but Lady Catherine, known to her family as Katie, continued living at Cally.  In 1787 Katie wrote to Ann Stewart, née Murray, of Shambellie (I am unsure whether she was the illegitimate daughter) wife of William Stewart, asking her not to mention her husband while &#8216;his frenzy remains&#8217;.  Grace and James eventually returned to Cally, which they enlarged to accommodate their four children, and Lady Katie died in 1799.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://thefollyflaneuse.com/the-temple-cally-house-gatehouse-of-fleet-dumfries-galloway/#comment-2714&quot;&gt;Gwyn&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ve spent too many years living just down the road from the Ally Pally!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://thefollyflaneuse.com/the-temple-cally-house-gatehouse-of-fleet-dumfries-galloway/#comment-2714">Gwyn</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve spent too many years living just down the road from the Ally Pally!</p>
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		By: Gwyn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what I was thinking of. Clearly it&#039;s the Caledonian Palace Hotel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what I was thinking of. Clearly it&#8217;s the Caledonian Palace Hotel.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, health and safety and all that, you can&#039;t even get to the door to look in. Afraid it is only you uncouth folk in London who abbreviate the names of your grand edifices!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, health and safety and all that, you can&#8217;t even get to the door to look in. Afraid it is only you uncouth folk in London who abbreviate the names of your grand edifices!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2020 14:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does that railing close off the top of the steps, preventing visitors from plummeting through the open doorway? Shame.
I presume your writing is informal, and that it&#039;s properly known as the Calexandra Palace Hotel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does that railing close off the top of the steps, preventing visitors from plummeting through the open doorway? Shame.<br />
I presume your writing is informal, and that it&#8217;s properly known as the Calexandra Palace Hotel.</p>
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